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Exeter Carnage UK policing costs call

By This is Exeter  |  Posted: October 27, 2009

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  • HIGH SPIRITS: Students enjoy the Carnage UK pub crawl in the city centre MATT MINSHULL EE251009_MM01_01

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THE organisers of a  mass student pub crawl  could be billed for the  cost of extra police drafted in for the next event.
Police claim that supervising  the Carnage  UK event held in the city  at the weekend cost  thousands of pounds.
As previously reported in the Echo, hundreds  of students descended on  the city’s nightspots as  part of the  pub crawl.
The event had been  dogged with controversy after police raised  concerns that it would  encourage binge drinking.
A second Carnage UK  event is planned for next  month and police say  they are looking at the  possibility of charging  the cost of policing the  event to the organisers.
Exeter Commander,  Superintendent John  Vellacott  told the Echo:  “The cost of policing the  Carnage UK event  would have been in the  thousands.
“We had extra officers  on duty that we would  not normally have had  on a Sunday night when  the event took place.
“We are looking at the  possibilities of charging  the whole cost of policing the next Carnage  event to the organisers.”
Two people were arrested during the Carnage UK event on Sunday on suspicion of public order offences.
Carnage UK, which is  a brand traded by Varsity Leisure Group,  claims one of the arrests  was unrelated to its pub  crawl.
Supt Vellacott added  that the event had  passed mainly uneventfully.
He said: “The event  went off without issue  but that is because of the  hard work we put in to  make sure it did.
“We ensured we had  enough resources ready  to deal with anything  that came up.
“I still do not support  this kind of event and we  will be providing the  same level of policing for  the next event in November.”
Some students  claimed the extra police  presence was unnecessary but officers said  they were there to provide public reassurance.
Councillor Rob Newby joined the police for  the event.
He told the Echo: “The  majority of the students  seemed in good spirits  and the event seemed to  go well.
“However, I think we  should remain cautious  about events such as  these as this was just one  event and they can  vary.”
A spokesman for Carnage UK would not comment about the possibility of the company being  charged for the cost of  policing the next event  in Exeter, but said: “We  have a very active legal  department and we have  specialists in every field  you can imagine.”
He added: “One of the  two people arrested was  not involved in the  event. He had tried to get  into Club Rococo and  was not permitted as he  did not have a Carnage  T-shirt on.”

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    leanne carter, beacon heath  |  October 28 2009, 4:54PM

    Another thing you all appear to have forgotton is that WE ALL, including students, even criminals, PAY COUNCIL TAX FOR THE POLICE "SERVICE"

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    leanne carter, beacon heath  |  October 27 2009, 11:01PM

    seems like another excuse for the police to flex muscle and show themselves off and possibly cash in a bit while their at it. The police have become an extremist regime, just the very thing this country is apperently opposed to and while we blow up half the world and critisise the other half we allow ourselves to be subjected to the very thing we claim to be cleansing the world of. How many innocents have dies in the name of releasing them from oppression and control? and again, here we are being controlled. Of course the police will say there was no trouble because they were there...... Yes always there, with their 30k B.MW'S that you paid for, with their on the spot fine docets ready to issue the fine for the criminal offence of......Having some fun.

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    Steve, exter  |  October 27 2009, 10:09PM

    I agree with the above all the police will do is try and charge them extra to try and re-cooperate lost funds over the current tax year. Cheeky.

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    M James, Central Exeter  |  October 27 2009, 9:02PM

    And had there been no police presence and some numpty student got themselves hurt or killed, everyones first question would be, why wasn't it policed? At some football matches there's absolutely zero trouble, but you wouldn't say to the police 'don't bother turning up next week, thanks'. Their presence is vital in protecting the people on the crawl and the those who live and work near it. Carnage made money out of the city, the city paid for the policing of the event. Therefore Carnage should stump up, surely?

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    dave, exeter  |  October 27 2009, 5:46PM

    surely there was no trouble because of the massive police presence?! therefore it should be paid for. For the regular whingers on here you always knock the police for whatever their doing, maybe you should think about what the consequences would have been if there had been no extra police presence? bet you'd have whinged at that as well. And as for the comment about officers having overtime. the vast majority of extra officers had rerostered rest days/leave or were from other parts of the county. All this for a night out drinking, damn right the company who's made thousands off it should pay

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    Sid, Exeter  |  October 27 2009, 4:57PM

    Seems strange to admit to having a "very active legal department".

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    Van Toll, In the bar  |  October 27 2009, 4:36PM

    Excuse me but am I being a bit dim ? Do the intellectual elite realy need to have a pub crawl organised for them, and are they such lambs that they need to be herded together. If you want to got out for a few drinks in town on a Sunday night can¿t you just do it ? I can¿t imagine in my wildest dreams imagine paying Varsity Leisure to organise a pub crawl, just exactly what is there to organise ? As far as the cost incurred by additional policing then there can be no argument that this should be directed to Varsity Leisure.

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    Steve Jones, Exeter  |  October 27 2009, 4:29PM

    Students are claming that the police presence was unnessacary. Well yes. I saw them out the amount of police made it look like a huge BNP rally. Councillor Rob Newby joined the police for the event. I cant see the Carnage company paying for police services as then it renders the event slightly pointless for them. I have however got a better idea how bout you staff it a little over not to excess as I would like to think that my council tax is being used when I need it. Not paying police officers who will have volenteered for overtime pay. I'm not happy having to pay council tax and when excess of services are used like this it angers me. The only trouble I had was trying to get into a bar up town earlier but I couldnt as the football crowds decided it was nesscary to have arguments in the venues I like to drink in after a roast on a sunday.

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    AP, Exeter  |  October 27 2009, 2:36PM

    David, the point is there was no trouble which is what Carnege were saying to begin with so the extra police presence was completely unnecessary. Decland, the reason student nights are barred to locals is because their are frequent assaults on students by the lesser desirable of the locals..

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    Sir Digby Chicken Ceasar, Exeter  |  October 27 2009, 1:08PM

    Notice that there was no arrests or trouble, unlike at a certain pub during the Liverchester v Manpool Althletic game as reported in todays Echo!! Lets not ban student pub crawls, lets ban Football matches from being screened in pubs.