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Home plans in Exeter put on ice due to traffic concerns around Hill Barton Road

By Exeter Express and Echo  |  Posted: December 06, 2012

By Anne Byrne

Cllr Rosie Denham

Cllr Rosie Denham is uncertain of the plans

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PLANS for 750 new homes in Exeter have been put on hold because of uncertainty over how the scheme will cope with the extra traffic.

The homes, along with open space and a site for a new railway halt, are destined for land around the Met Office.

Members of the city's planning committee deferred a decision because they felt it was unclear how existing roads would handle a big increase in the number of cars.

The main access to the site is off Hill Barton Road, but there would eventually be a route connected through to Fitzroy and Oberon Roads.

But it became clear at the meeting, which was attended by Jamie Hulland, Devon's transportation studies manager, that details of the main junction's access have not yet been finalised.

Cllr Rosie Denham said: "While I have confidence in the county council's assessment of 400 new homes being supported by that access, we are not being asked to consider much detail.

"We don't know what it is going to be and I don't think it is appropriate for me to support this application because of the lack of this information."

Fellow committee member Cllr Keith Owen said: "We are being asked to approve a blank sheet of paper and I would feel very unhappy to support this."

Wilton Way resident Des Furness said: "It just paints a more worrying picture for me that in preparation for an important and crucial meeting they (the building developers) did not have all the relevant and important information to hand.

"How the scheme interacts with the existing highway infrastructure is, I would have thought, a major concern for any developer."

The planning application was one of several for new homes which totalled more than 1,740 in and on the city's eastern edge.

The committee approved plans for 350 new homes at Monkerton which will be linked to a further 580 new homes in East Devon by the Tithebarn link road which connects Cumberland Way to the old A30 via Tithebarn Bridge. East Devon District Council is likely to discuss their share of the homes in January.

Concerns about possible flooding of the site were raised at the meeting by Pinhoe city councillor, Moira Macdonald and local resident Jane Baker told the meeting that this number of houses would have a huge impact on the character and neighbourhood of Pinhoe and pointed out that the local school and health centre were already over-subscribed.

Mrs Baker also said that there were concerns that Tithebarn Lane and Pinn Lane would become a rat run.

Another application for 62 homes at Sandrock, off Gypsy Hill Lane was also approved.

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  • Jungle_Jim  |  December 12 2012, 2:53PM

    Ha! I won't be taking lessons from a small-minded stalker. Were you telling the truth you wouldn't have had to quote from another source. Try sticking to one ID instead of rating from several. Follow if you like, chump, but you have still failed to read my comments properly

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  • smallboy2010  |  December 12 2012, 1:48PM

    Hey Jungle - are you still clicking your rateing box's lol ?

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  • smallboy2010  |  December 12 2012, 1:47PM

    So you give in because you know you're wrong - how typical !!! I used the word because I knew what it meant - I didnt have to look the meaning up lol. it was you who were wrong and you are so petty you can't give it up. When I see your petition to not build any more houses in the world lest they infringe on your world I won't sign it. I'll sleep well though knowing that I can and that I command better English than at least one citizen of the uk ? Mr jungle :-)

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  • Jungle_Jim  |  December 12 2012, 1:37PM

    Dear oh dear I know what bigot means and didn't need 4 days to find an online definition - having researched your 'evidence' you don't as you are applying it incorrectly. There is only one person who has shown an intollerance of others views here. At no point have I stated that my house had no impact, I have not stated I don't use my car, i have also not said there should be no development. Hill Barton is neither in my back yard, nor anywhere near it. Please learn to read properly before you start making accusations and 'going off on one'. I have no intention of spelling out where (due to your lack of skill) you have misinterpreted my previous comments in words of one syllable. I won't bother with you any further as this discussion is so disjointed it makes no sense with all your repeated rants deleted.

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  • Jungle_Jim  |  December 12 2012, 9:57AM

    Funny, i find that those that repeat the same nonsense and insults and read without understanding (I didn't say my house was impactless and i didn't say I don't use my car) are the ones with no argument, just argumentative. Talking to a wall may be funny in a film, but it doesn't work on here. Anyway, it looks like I've been having a discussion with myself, so I guess someone took exception to your comments

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  • smallboy2010  |  December 12 2012, 8:57AM

    I normally find that people who realise they have no argument because fundamentally they have they not a single point that they can argue with conviction give up first. This gives them more time to enjoy their impact less house and car that doesn't use the road

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  • Jungle_Jim  |  December 11 2012, 4:38PM

    Smallbrain I think I'll leave you to fester in your ill-informed rage. Those who insult first normally have no argument and the enless repeating of the same drivel just shows what you are.

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  • Jungle_Jim  |  December 10 2012, 6:36PM

    Well, having read her recent history, it's clear you fell at the starting gate smallboy (I wouldn't ever use the term small about myself). Perhaps you are so consumed by devotion to your own opinions you see things that arn't there, you certainly haven't read carefully as you would have asked a reasonable question rather than repeat your rant. This development cannot be supported by the existing infrastructure - even after tens of millions of investment from central government - and the application is littered with the usual false assumtions and assessments to make it mre palatable. The failure of developers to do the low profit or high cost add ons is both common and well documented. My house, when built (and when i bought it) was part of an apropriate development that fitted in with the existing infrastructure - unlike more recent additions. I don't drive my car to work, so don't add to congestion. There is nothing wrong with development that is apropriate, properly planned and has the necesssary services in place - this, like much that is foisted on the westcountry, does not. Ultimately, you still have the number 1 spot in the B stakes

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  • Jungle_Jim  |  December 10 2012, 10:28AM

    Dear oh dear, that can hardly be proven on the basis of a single comment, can it. You need an extended exchange to examine someone's position before you can use that difinition. On the basis of the 'discussion' thus far, there is only one "person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions " in the room. Have another few days to consider.

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  • Jungle_Jim  |  December 06 2012, 9:05PM

    smallboy20101 I think you'd better ask Santa for a dictionary & thesaurus for Christmas. Hypocrite may be a more apropriate word, except that much of what leona says is correct. The planning proposals for this are laughable - especially in relation to transport.

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